How Did We Get It So Wrong?

Steve Kinsman By Steve Kinsman, 16th Nov 2016 | Follow this author | RSS Feed | Short URL http://nut.bz/1prhbjvn/
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There are lots of things we failed to see in regard to this election, and the result was a woefully inaccurate prediction.

We were mistaken

How did we get it so wrong?

Most astrologers, myself included, predicted that Hillary Clinton would be victorious over Donald Trump in her quest for the presidency of the United States. (Before I go any farther with this, I should point out that when astrologers make wrong predictions, it is never the fault of astrology. The fault lies with the astrologer, who has misinterpreted what the stars are indicating.)

I based my prediction, among other things, on the fact that Venus would be transiting in conjunction to Hillary's Sun the day after the election, which in most cases correspond to a happy day in the life of any person experiencing that particular transit. It turns out, however, that November 9th was no doubt a very sad day in her life, so what then could that transit have really indicated for Hillary? My guess is that there was love (Venus) all around her on November ninth, as a long line of friends and others must have shown her great support. In retrospect, I should have remembered that one must be very careful in the conclusions he or she draws regarding transits. I should have remembered that the most we can really say about such a transit is that something of the archetypal nature of Venus will play out in the life of an individual experiencing Venus transiting across his or her Sun. It might indeed be a happy day for the individual, but it might also be a sad day which brings lots of loving energy to that individual from well-wishers, as was undoubtedly the case for Hillary.

But what then about all of the other astrological signatures pointing to a Trump defeat, such as the fact that Saturn had moved into Gemini, the sign opposite his Sun? Soon Saturn will oppose his Sun and conjoin his Moon, and most of us in the astrological community felt that that was a clear sign he would be defeated. He had also accepted his nomination on a void-of course Moon (as did Al Gore in 2000), which should have sounded the death-knell for his chances.

Still, he won. So what gives?

I've thought about this at length, and I'm starting to see this as something that goes far beyond what the stars are indicating about the lives of two particular individuals. Something much greater seems to be unfolding . There is likely some profound cosmic apparatus at work here that is beyond the capacity of us mere mortals to completely grasp. It may be that Pluto's current transit through Capricorn, which began with the economic meltdown of 2008, and most assuredly will bring about world-wide system collapse (Pluto = destruction, Capricorn = the system), needs a Trump presidency for that to occur. After all, Trump will never deliver on his promise to all the "Joe Sixpack" white working class men who voted him into office that he will bring all their jobs back. He won't, and when Donald's voters realize that they've been had, the victims of an egregious con job, there will be massive unrest. The state will then move to crush all dissent, unleashing the full force and power of our militarized police forces against the citizenry. This will not stop the protest. Quite the contrary. It will fuel even greater resistance.

The revolution has already begun.

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Astrogy, Astrological Prediction, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, Horoscopes, Prediction, Predictive Astrology, Steve Kinsman

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I live in California with my wife Carol, where I have been practicing professional astrology for 35 years. I write articles on astrology, but I enjoy writing on a variety of other subjects as well..

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author avatar Peter B. Giblett
17th Nov 2016 (#)

In one respect I don't believe you got it wrong. I point back to the days when Bernie Sanders was running you stated that if Bernie wins Trump loses by a landslide, but if Hillary wins the Democratic nomination then she will lose to Trump. This turned out to be the case. The earlier prediction was better.

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
17th Nov 2016 (#)

Thank you Peter, for pointing that out, but I must admit I made that prediction based upon my political observations. When I looked to the stars, I called it wrong because I misinterpreted them, as I wrote above.

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author avatar L. R. Laverde-Hansen
17th Nov 2016 (#)

You might still be right--if the Electoral College came to its senses.

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
18th Nov 2016 (#)

Hillary, of course, won the popular vote, which is still being counted. Almost 4 million votes are yet to be counted in California alone. She is at least 2 million votes ahead right now and could conceivably end up with over 3 million more votes than Trump.

Greg Palast has an article in www.truthdig.com today which explains how this election was stolen for Trump in Michigan, Florida and Arizona.

Finally, it's too bad the DNC rigged the system for Hillary and against Bernie. Bernie would have trounced Trump.

Thanks for commenting L. R.

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author avatar writestuff
18th Nov 2016 (#)

Thanks for sharing your informed astrological chartings. Please also keep sharing your wisdom and timely political observations.

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
20th Nov 2016 (#)

Thank you writestuff. I appreciate that very much.

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author avatar Randhir Bechoo
20th Nov 2016 (#)

Interesting page

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author avatar Mariah
20th Nov 2016 (#)

I second that writestuff!!
Steve you were right on the money when you stated that America was faced with Hobson's choice.. neither was
a good one.. Hilary being the lesser of the two evils, so let's just watch this space buddy xx

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author avatar Nancy Czerwinski
21st Nov 2016 (#)

Steve, thank you for sharing this article. It made me stop and think and I personally believe that something big is about to happen. Maybe that is what the stars know. I really don't want to see our system fail because that would mean chaos for all and in the end it would be every man for himself. Do you see anything coming for 2017 that we should all know?

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
21st Nov 2016 (#)

I see, as I mentioned above, that Pluto's transit of Capricorn (for the very first time since its discovery) will bring a total collapse (Pluto represents death, annihilation, destruction, obliteration, etc.) of the system (Capricorn). The process began when Pluto entered Capricorn in 2008 at the time of the economic meltdown. We are now at the midway point of Pluto's transit through Capricorn. Therefore I think we are very, very close to the proverbial excrement hitting the fan, as it were. Trump is filling the positions of power with the very people he promised he would not give power to - Wall street bigwigs, corporation heads and political hacks - he is already betraying the people who voted for him. Trump's incompetence and his mental illness (extreme narcissism) will fuel the flames of the collapse.

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author avatar Mariah
21st Nov 2016 (#)

Just below Randhir and right above Nancy.. I also see something.. a banner waving engraved with these words...
"oh an aye I nearly forgot tae say... hello 2 u 2 Mariah"

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
21st Nov 2016 (#)

Yes, hello to you too dear Mariah - never doubt my complete appreciation for your wise, acerbic and humorous contributions to my efforts here. Bless you.

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author avatar AnnH
19th Dec 2016 (#)

Thanks for sharing Steve, very interesting....

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author avatar M G Singh
22nd Dec 2016 (#)

A very candid and thought provoking article. I had a hunch all along on my amateur numerological pyramid that Donald would win. I do not see his victory as doomsday but a sign that some one is needed who will take up the impossible dream and win.. Thank you Steve for a nice discussion

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author avatar Steve Kinsman
23rd Dec 2016 (#)

Thanks for commenting, Madan. I do see his victory as doomsday.

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author avatar spirited
11th Mar 2017 (#)

So Astrology stands alone as infallible, not unlike mathematics does as a language. Mathematics is never wrong, only the mathematicians can make an error in calculation.

That's a good point you have made there, as I like most, perhaps, have often thrown out the bath with the bathwater, blamed astrology itself, rather than the predictor.

Is there real truth in Astrology then that we can really compare it to mathematics like this?

Love is not mathematical, and so for those of us, probably only the highest of spiritual masters, who can operate from love alone, we cannot make mistakes, but the truth of love is something else again, we can learn love's truths from love, but still have trouble applying them practically in our lives, I guess.

It's the same with Astrology I guess. It has a mix of love's energy as well as Truth's precision in it too.

But it always comes down to the person trying to understand it, to apply it, I guess, and whether they have an agenda, other than just love, in their application, and renditionary predictions with it.

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